1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 What about the creepy feelings down here? 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 This. It's maxed out too, see? 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Listen. Wow. Still going. Still going. Still going. 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:22,000 One thing we did also find while we were down there was high electromagnetic fields. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 It's the whole basement. 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 Right over the washer. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,000 The dryer? It's funny because it can be on one line, but on the other one it's totally another. 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Yeah. So the copper tubing was generating high EMF field. 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,000 There's something laying on this thing. You need to find the exact source. 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,000 That's where it really starts humming. 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Right at that T-junction? 12 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 Right here. 13 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:50,000 Someone had grounded out some power line resting on the copper piping down there. 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,000 I'd explain why when she's here at the laundry station. 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,000 She doesn't want to keep that big, wide empty space behind her. 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 She's got the paranoia from an EMF field. 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 We have a large EMF field. 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Someone spends any length of time down there. 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:06,000 If they're sensitive enough to it, they will feel like this paranormal activity. 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 They'll feel like they want to look over their shoulder. 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Like they're creeped out and that fits Roxanne's explanation exactly. 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Yeah, this whole basement's just full of it. 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,000 This created what we call a fear cage. 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 We're not saying that's definitely what's going on, 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 but it could definitely be one of the causes. 26 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,000 Here they felt a large thud on this couch. 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,000 So it felt like something punched the side of it. 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,000 Actually, it was this couch. 29 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,000 It was this couch? 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,000 Yeah. 31 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,000 I wonder if it's maybe a pull-out couch. 32 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Maybe get the springs and snow. 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,000 Yeah, it's something like just the spring matches. 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,000 I mean, a spring could have broke or something. 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,000 That happens all the time, actually. 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 It does happen. 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 No, it does, yeah. 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,000 But she claims it was like a forceful boom coming from one... 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Now, look at this. 40 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,000 I wonder if that arm is loose. 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,000 Because if somebody just... 42 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:14,000 A little bit, you know, like you're not going to think that you're going to move a couch arm without any force. 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:19,000 And to me, it's no coincidence that this just happens to be extraordinarily loose. 44 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Yeah, yeah. 45 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 It couldn't be, man. 46 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,000 The quince noise like that just put right in your face. 47 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Yeah. 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Makes me believe that it's just other circumstances happening. 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,000 I agree. 50 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Well, it's... 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,000 I'm going to sit on this couch here, Dave. 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Yeah. 53 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,000 You just see if we can't get that to happen. 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 I mean, it may be debunked, but... 55 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,000 What if I join you on this side? 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,000 I'm going to give it a few minutes. 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 I'm going to feel it. 58 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,000 You hear that? 59 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,000 What? 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 So that definitely means there's broken springs. 61 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Yep. 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,000 There is a good chance that it was just a violent spring. 63 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Like, springs are violent. 64 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Like, they could, you know, they're tight. 65 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,000 And they let go, they break. 66 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Boom! 67 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 Like, who knows? 68 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 It's a piece of wood in there. 69 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:22,000 I stopped by to speak with Carolyn Powers from the Blackstone Historical Commission to find out more information about the history of the Leducer's House. 70 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,000 Carolyn, nice to meet you. 71 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Nice to meet you. 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,000 Thank you, Chris. 73 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,000 It's a pleasure. 74 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:35,000 We just did a case in Blackstone Mass, and we weren't really told too much about when it was built or anything about the property. 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 And I was hoping you might be able to help me out with that. 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 The property originated in 1910. 77 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,000 It was owned by Antonio D'Alafiori. 78 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,000 He sold this property in 1943 to John J. Gilson. 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 This German couple ran a local fish and chip place. 80 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:56,000 And in conversation with one area resident, a comment was made that the Gilson family, they were isolated from mothers. 81 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:03,000 They were a bit strange that in 1964, John's wife Cecil Gilson died suddenly. 82 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Mrs. Gilson died in the home, and it did show that it was an unexpected death. 83 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000 I was told that the house was rented. 84 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 People would live there for maybe a year and move out. 85 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 No one really seemed to stay there a long time. 86 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:26,000 This house is known that there's possibility of a ghost being there, but it was very difficult to get information. 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:33,000 It was a house that was isolated on a dead end street, and a lot of people didn't know the people who resided there. 88 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Well, Carolyn, thank you so much for all your time and your help. 89 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,000 You're welcome. 90 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,000 Appreciate it. It was very nice to meet you. 91 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,000 You're welcome. 92 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 So I'm a little worried about how Roxanne's going to take this. 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,000 I think she's going to be a little surprised and maybe a little overwhelmed by the activity that we caught. 94 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:55,000 And my biggest worry is how she's going to take the scratches that appear on my leg. 95 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,000 Cross her fingers, I guess. 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Yeah. 97 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:03,000 We need to take care and make sure that when we leave, they understand what they're dealing with, and we can at least go from there. 98 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Well, let's try to put her at ease. 99 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Okay. 100 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,000 All right, so where to now? 101 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:20,000 Well, if you like, the one spot that's kind of interesting is where the gallows is located, and we can walk out there and I can show you where that was located. 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 So we're going from the courthouse to the jail to the gallows. 103 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,000 So pretty much taking the tour. 104 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 With the natural progression, yeah. 105 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,000 After you. 106 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,000 Hopefully not for me. 107 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:38,000 This is one of our interpretive signs here at the site, and it marks the location of the gallows. 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:44,000 They would build the gallows as needed, and do their executions of wherever they were executing, and then take it back down. 109 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Some people have felt sudden decreases in temperature and then feeling normal temperature after that. 110 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,000 So getting really cold chills, and then the cold chill goes away. 111 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,000 Okay. 112 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,000 All right, great. 113 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 Down to the jail. 114 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 I know it's cold in here, but my legs don't want to work. 115 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:14,000 All right, so we're in the old jail, and I guess this was one of the cells. 116 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 People hear voices in here. 117 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,000 I guess they've heard women get called derogatory names. 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,000 We'll have to work with kind of derogatory names. 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,000 I don't know. 120 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 Let's see what happens when we come up with what we're here. 121 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 All right, I'm going to start this. 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 This is Kristin Amy. 123 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 This is Brentsville Historic Center. 124 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,000 This is where you should just jump the nice stuff. 125 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Yeah, I think so. 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Especially since it's already known for saying mean things to women. 127 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Where are you hiding, you coward? 128 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,000 We heard you like to call women bad names. 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 So we're here. 130 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Usually with EVP work, I mean, we try to think of absolutely everything and anything we can think of. 131 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,000 So we try to see what will get them to react. 132 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Maybe he's just so pathetic he could never get one to date him. 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 So he's just naturally mad at women. 134 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 You have trouble meeting girls? 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:09,000 I don't know if you're used to girls being scared of you, but we're not. 136 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Are you used to having girls laugh at you? 137 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Let us know you're here then. 138 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:22,000 If you're not going to yell at us and call us names, why don't you stomp on something, close the door, knock on something. 139 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 It really didn't come up with much. 140 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,000 You got to give us something. 141 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Don't you want us to know you're here? 142 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,000 Don't you want us to know how strong you are? 143 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Come on. 144 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Can't stay long. 145 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 We had our camera go in the entire time, so hopefully there'll be something on that. 146 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,000 And we did a lot of EVP work and we had our recorder go in the whole time. 147 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 So who knows what we might come up with. 148 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,000 What's the next step? 149 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,000 You know what we can do? We do have the flower and stuff. 150 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 We haven't used that in a little while. 151 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,000 We can always go put that maybe in the church on the floor. 152 00:07:56,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Grant and I just decided to lay some flower down on the floor in the church, where you just put some flower in the sifter. 153 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Two and a half cups. 154 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Two and a half cups of sugar. 155 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Yeah. 156 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 All right, here we go. 157 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 Look, I'm already covered in flower. 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Big, that 350. 159 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,000 You pour it on the floor and you try to see if any footprints come out of it. 160 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 It's like spray paint in the floor of a church. 161 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 I know. 162 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:26,000 It's so funny when you get all this equipment, this heavy duty equipment, you forget about the simple little things, the roots. 163 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 That's a pretty good cover there, huh? 164 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,000 Mm-hmm, well done. 165 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,000 This is what happens when you let two plumbers for a road of rooters start trying to bake a cake. 166 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Let's go. 167 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,000 All right. 168 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,000 So, only time will tell. 169 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,000 We recorded it prior to us leaving and there was absolutely no footprints. 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,000 So, we'll come back in a couple hours to see if there are any. 171 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Oh, you want to check on the flower stuff before we head back? 172 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Heck yeah. 173 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,000 It'd be nice to see if we find any steps. 174 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Grant and I headed back to the church to check on the flower experiment to see if any footprints or anything of that nature showed up. 175 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 Here we go. 176 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Drum roll, please. 177 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,000 What do we got? 178 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 Got nothing. 179 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Nothing? 180 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Nothing. 181 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Let's open it, come in and see this. 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000 That's the effect we're looking for. 183 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,000 The beautiful thing about this is, how much does that cost you? 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Five cents of flower? 185 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Yeah, you know, it is what it is. 186 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:39,000 You take a chance when you're putting the stuff down and you hope for the best, but it doesn't appear anything, anything's stepped through it. 187 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:49,000 All right, Dave, this is where the gallows were when we got here. 188 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,000 So, this was a place where people were hung. 189 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,000 So cold. 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Hey, Kung Fu, really? 191 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,000 You're tying it perfectly now. 192 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Well, I just do some stuff I can't do perfectly. 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Oh, I broke it. 194 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Hold on, I'm gonna get another stick. 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,000 There we go. 196 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,000 This will be the best. 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Hold on, hold on. 198 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 I wish I had a nice high-pitched one. 199 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,000 All right. 200 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,000 Stop breaking it. 201 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Stop breaking it. 202 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,000 You're horrible. 203 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:50,000 What do you mean I'm horrible? 204 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,000 You do it. 205 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 I don't know the Kung Fu moves. 206 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 You don't have to, I don't know the Kung Fu moves. 207 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,000 Give me the edible. 208 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,000 Yeah. 209 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,000 Is that it? 210 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,000 I don't know Kung Fu, I do bossing. 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,000 Just break it. 212 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,000 All right. 213 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 How about a spin kick? 214 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:31,000 Don't, don't. 215 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,000 I haven't done it in a long time. 216 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,000 It's okay. 217 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,000 I can't do it. 218 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Jay and I headed into the jail, 219 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 went over to the room across the hall, 220 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 and we have a meter, it's called a K2 meter, 221 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,000 and it measures magnetic fields and certain frequencies. 222 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 You mentioned that Billy has no power to work at all. 223 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 No power at all, no. 224 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,000 As we were in there, there was one old wire that was exposed, 225 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,000 and as we went over there with the K2, 226 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,000 it started to light up telling us there was a magnetic field. 227 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 So we thought, oh, maybe there is some latent power here or something going on. 228 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,000 We moved the cable and the meter was still reading, 229 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,000 and it was actually read out into the middle of the room. 230 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 And we didn't know what was going on here, 231 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,000 and then as quick as it came, it went. 232 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,000 And then we headed up the stairs 233 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:26,000 and found another magnetic field up the stairs, 234 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,000 and then it went away again. 235 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,000 One of the theories behind magnetic fields is, 236 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:33,000 first off, it can create feelings of paranoia and nausea, fatigue, 237 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,000 things of that nature, to the human body. 238 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:41,000 But another theory is that when a spirit activity is present, 239 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 that it gives off a magnetic field and return to lighting up the device. 240 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 It's not consistent, it just can come and go. 241 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,000 It seemed to be there sometimes, 242 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,000 and then totally disappear to the point where we couldn't find it, 243 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 and then ever so often we'd run across it again. 244 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,000 Which was strange, because that kind of tells you 245 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,000 that that magnetic field is moving, 246 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,000 it's moving within its own areas. 247 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,000 So what does it mean? 248 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000 We have no idea. 249 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,000 It was an anomaly that we found in there. 250 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,000 There's no reason why a building with no power shouldn't have a high em... 251 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 I mean, it was all the way, really, 252 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 it spiked, and then just stopped. 253 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 There's no reason why that should happen.